this could be devastating for this economy. >> let's take boeing, for example, boeing is not laying off anyone because of healthcare. boeing already provides healthcare to their employees at a level that makes the affordable care act not really am canal to them. that's not' the reason. what else is going on. >> laura: other taxes that are also going to kick in because there is very little faith that this fiscal cliff deal will actually be solved in a way that brings long term reform. again, as i say, i know people. a lot of folks in business that i know, again, many of whom supported barack obama said, look, romney knows business. we know that the burden on us is going to get less if he is elected. that money is going to go into the market. we have had a sell off in the market over three days. >> um-huh. >> laura: it's been difficult times. i want to get this on the record. you don't think any of this is the result of their decisions because of obama's policies? >> let's look at it this way. the market sell off, for example, if you are telling me for the better part of the last year and